HA06ZZA Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I have 6000 k on mine and that's perfect goin on a bout dazzle this and dazzle that is stupid because, 1 we would never get pulled because there not bright enough to be noticeable 2 our cars are new so police would only get the idea that they are standard to the car I was talkin to one cop that said he really liked my light and "wished he had some like that on his police car" haha he called them "range rover lights" what a donut (can't swear ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIESTA_MAD Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 i dont see any problem fitting any hids upto 6000k into the fiestas projectors when ford fitted bi xnenon lights into the focus and mondeo fitted with nearly the same lights . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-train Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 The fact that they have projector lenses means it shouldn't dazzle like they would do on an old car as the beam pattern should be ok. My last car had projector headlights and it passed its mot a couple of weeks ago for the 3rd time with them in. Not saying it always will, but it has been up until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1g_dav3 Posted June 5, 2014 Share Posted June 5, 2014 They're actually completely different lenses for xenon headlights, but they should be good really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheriff Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Jesus there's a lot of bull !Removed! in is thread... HID lights are not dangerous just because they are HID's, let's get that straight out of the way. The way they are fitted,and what type of headlamp they are fitted to makes them dangerous.... Correctly fitted and aligned HID's in projector housings are absolutely fine. The only difference to factory xenon headlamps (which HID's are but cheaper) are the addition of a level sensor and headlamp washers. The sensor keeps the lights pointing where they should and the washer keeps the beam pattern from going all over the place. The problem is this. Far too many bell end chavs fit HID lights to reflector housings. The beam pattern is scattered all over the place and is blinding to oncoming vehicles. This instantly puts HID's into the 'dangerous' bracket which is actually unjust. No, technically they are not legal. Yes there may be an MoT issue (but let's be fair this has been punting around for ages so I'd not worry too much) but ultimately if they are fitted to projector housings and aligned properly there should not be an issue. I love xenon lights on the cars I've had before, and I'd have them on every car if I could as the light output is much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Totally agree. It is illegal to fit HID units to standard reflector headlights -no if's and's or but's. They must be fitted into projector lens units to focus the light properly or they will dazzle oncoming drivers. If anyone thinks they are safe in normal lenses then try this- Buy a strong LED torch and shine it directly into your eyes for a couple of seconds then attempt to see where you are going. You will not be able to for several minutes as the rods and cones in your eye will be overloaded. Now imagine this was your eyes on an unlit A road after being dazzled by some nub using HID on reflector housings. Same effect- !Removed! dangerous and selfish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted April 20, 2015 Share Posted April 20, 2015 Totally agree. It is illegal to fit HID units to standard reflector headlights -no if's and's or but's. They must be fitted into projector lens units to focus the light properly or they will dazzle oncoming drivers. If anyone thinks they are safe in normal lenses then try this- Buy a strong LED torch and shine it directly into your eyes for a couple of seconds then attempt to see where you are going. You will not be able to for several minutes as the rods and cones in your eye will be overloaded. Now imagine this was your eyes on an unlit A road after being dazzled by some nub using HID on reflector housings. Same effect- !Removed! dangerous and selfish. Just to clarify for people.. some cars have HIDs in reflectors from the factory. These reflectors are designed for the beam pattern of the HID bulb and the car will be fitted with washers and self levelling :). French cars in particular 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philf1 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 You can now buy HIDs for reflector lenses no idea what they will be like See here http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7r-35w-ultra-slim-canbus-hid-xenon-conversion-kit/ Sent from my iPhone using Ford OC mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 You can now buy HIDs for reflector lenses no idea what they will be like See here http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/h7r-35w-ultra-slim-canbus-hid-xenon-conversion-kit/ Sent from my iPhone using Ford OC mobile app All they do is prevent glare. they don't focus the light back onto the road www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJJR Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'm all for HIDs but people must install them correctly otherwise it's just unfair to other road users and becomes annoying. If people are after just a clear white effect I would defo recommend powerbulbs.com becuase they do some really top quality phillips and orsam bulbs for a nice white effect and better night vision on stock lenses. Otherwise installed correctly HIDs with the right alignemnt/filter/lenses etc are good and a good addition to your night driving experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Sorry but why should people like myself stop installing them when we do it correctly? Manufacturs also install them correctly.. I agree it is extremely infuriating when idiots (mostly chavs or white vans) install HIDs in non HID reflector housings. Have you tried HIDs in your car? Cause I'm sure other members will agree that there is a huge difference between correctly installed HIDs and filament. Not all HIDs are white either. They range from deep orange-white-blue-purple. Some are even green for the real idiots. There's a Vw passat painted matte green with a shark on the front and he has green HIDs in REFLECtor housings www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJJR Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Sorry but why should people like myself stop installing them when we do it correctly? Manufacturs also install them correctly.. I agree it is extremely infuriating when idiots (mostly chavs or white vans) install HIDs in non HID reflector housings. Have you tried HIDs in your car? Cause I'm sure other members will agree that there is a huge difference between correctly installed HIDs and filament. Not all HIDs are white either. They range from deep orange-white-blue-purple. Some are even green for the real idiots. There's a Vw passat painted matte green with a shark on the front and he has green HIDs in REFLECtor housings www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality Detailing & Valeting supplies Lets not get it twisted mate, I am having a go at those who do NOT install them correctly. Otherwise I'm all for them :) I'm with you on that, I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 That's fair enough & I'd say the same! When they dazzle someone & cause an accident they'll just drive away innocently & you won't have their reg as you can't see a thing! But in my eyes your post doesn't read that way, just so you know! If you wanted to edit it slightly then I'll edit the quote in my comment www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanJJR Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 That's fair enough & I'd say the same! When they dazzle someone & cause an accident they'll just drive away innocently & you won't have their reg as you can't see a thing! But in my eyes your post doesn't read that way, just so you know! If you wanted to edit it slightly then I'll edit the quote in my comment www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality Detailing & Valeting supplies Have done just that mate! Thanks. I think my opening was a bit too negative lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikehorne Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 ...so legally what are best bulbs that give the correct LEGAL amount of light then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 There is no legal amount of light. It just has to be E marked after a certain brightness :) . Also, this bit Is from VOSA regarding new MOT guidelines. IanTT will tell you the same if the bulbs have the brightness marked on them, and it exceeds 2000lumens then headlight washers & self levelling are a legal requirement. If the headlights do not have the intensite marked on them then they are to be treated as regular headlights. If you believe the washers should be fitted, Pass and advise. www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philf1 Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 To be honest I see more halogen lights misaligned than I do HIDs I just can't understand why some people find it so hard to get right Sent from my iPhone using Ford OC mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac9577 Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hey All, HID's Rock. Its a customisation after all, that sets it apart from others on the road. I know people don't like being on the receiving end of them (particularly if they are misaligned), but every night journey reality is, you are on the receiving end at some point, so I'm a verdict of "if you cant beat them, join them".. I do think the problem gets worse the higher the K gets, but a correctly installed 6000k, is no different to any factory BMW or Mercedes. I'm waiting on mine from China (AliExpress), which ive used from my older Vauxhall days.. Let the abuse begin!... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hey All, HID's Rock. Its a customisation after all, that sets it apart from others on the road. I know people don't like being on the receiving end of them (particularly if they are misaligned), but every night journey reality is, you are on the receiving end at some point, so I'm a verdict of "if you cant beat them, join them".. I do think the problem gets worse the higher the K gets, but a correctly installed 6000k, is no different to any factory BMW or Mercedes. I'm waiting on mine from China (AliExpress), which ive used from my older Vauxhall days.. Let the abuse begin!... The colour temperature makes no real difference to brightness, only a slight variation. Visible/useful light is slightly different obviously. I don't mind misaligned HIDs in projectors as I know they've tried & theyre also a small light source. Reflectors are like a small sun & are much harder to avert your eyes from! And they haven't tried at all.. They've just been lazy www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSMarsden Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 As silly as this sounds (Sorry new to this so still learning) but in my Fiesta (as with all of yours) you can adjust the height of your lights, lower, higher etc with the switch. I understand that when putting HDI's in, you have to do a bit of DIY and have them sticking out of the back as the lights are bigger than the headlight casing? If this is so, would I still be able to make them higher/lower (I guess this simply moves the projector lens up and down.....?) Would this count as leveling, or to have HID's legal would I need to have them aligned at a garage and headlight washers (which i dont have?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Self levelling is where the car has sensors on the rear suspension and automatically adjusts. It is only required if the lights say 2000lumens+ on them. Headlight washers are only required on this term too. If they are unlabeled or less than 2000 lumens then no washers or levelling, as I said above. The bulbs don't stick out the back if you fit them correctly. www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 If you go for 35w HIDs then they're completely legal aslong as they're installed in projectors. No Self levelling or washers necessary www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart jj Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 If you go for 35w HIDs then they're completely legal aslong as they're installed in projectors. No Self levelling or washers necessary www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality Detailing & Valeting supplies Is this right? Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerFlame Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Is this right? Stu If they're less than 2000 lumens, yes www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality detailing & Valeting supplies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart jj Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 If they're less than 2000 lumens, yes www.yorkshiredetailing.co.uk - approved resellers of the Highest quality Detailing & Valeting supplies All I know is the ones I have are 6k 35w ones.. Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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